I wonder if you have to reduce the E8 bit of an E8 6b you do above mats :-)

There's an epic ongoing climbing wank about whether you're allowed to claim the E-grade if you do a route without gear but above mats, or whether the route should get a separate V-grade or Font grade instead. It seems to be one of the faster ways to start a flamewar on a British climbing forum.

I'm unable to bring myself to care very much, but that may be because I'm not ever going to be climbing at that level anyway. *g*

Yay for pinnacle climbs! That looks amazing.