I wonder if you have to reduce the E8 bit of an E8 6b you do above mats :-) Ryan obviously has good jamming skills...

My glee is still about limestone, particularly Symonds Yat; I got 5 good ticks on Saturday, and my climbing partner seconded up two Severes, which was pretty good going for their first time outside. The weather looks good for another trip tomorrow. I'm hoping to have a go at Vertigo, because it looks like an awesome view from the top :-)